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« Reply #100 on: July 12, 2010, 08:35:15 AM »

great post. this sentiment of distrust and lack of integrity is the reason why everything associated with the city proper is pegged as a failure waiting to happen.

i'm still confused why Clay, Platte, Jackson, and Cass counties can't form some type of regional governing body and create some sort of tax district. it would probably be the best thing to happen to this area.

Because the real problem is city vs. suburb, not KS vs. MO.
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« Reply #101 on: July 12, 2010, 09:38:13 AM »

You don't think Denverites sit on the Plaza and contemplate the same thing? I think Lodo is nice but really, for a city that is supposed to be cool as hell, that's it?

If you see LoDo as the only thing that Denverians have accomplished, then you've not looked very hard.  The past 20 years of forward thinking and accomplishment in the mile high city would provide a text book for city development.   And attitude has been a significant core element.

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« Reply #102 on: July 14, 2010, 08:18:34 AM »

Kansas City is far too small for the kind of sentiment AKP suggests. 

In theory, yes, but in practice, no.  The old city core, including downtown, just is not part of many local's everyday life.  They can live, work, eat, and play all their lives without visiting the area, or if they do it would be a very rare occurrence.
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« Reply #103 on: July 14, 2010, 08:28:31 AM »

Now just imagine how rare it is for someone to visit your neighborhood.
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« Reply #104 on: July 14, 2010, 08:50:54 AM »

AKP is an example of the problem. He represents the mindset of a significant number of people in the Metro, whose opinions hold the City and Metro back. AKP is among the most negative people on this forum.  His posts are full of excuses and rarely solutions.

Negative - no.  But I do like to question and challenge stands taken by others.
Example of the problem - no.  But then, what is the problem you describe?  What holds KCMO back, and to an extent the metro area, are decisions made by those in charge whether it be elected leaders, business leaders, community leaders, and to a lesser extent 'all' of the citizens.
You might take my comments about the P&L District as being anti-development.  I am not anti-development, just opposed to how it was handled.  The water and sewer improvements could have been financed by bonds for that purpose - of course all ratepayers would be paying them off but are they not doing it now anyway?  The garages could have been built with revenue bonds much like many of the other city garages downtown.  And instead of using TIF the council could have gone to the voters for approval of general obligation bonds - and yes the citizens would have been paying those off.  Overall, the project was rushed through the council without many questions being asked or the issue debated (they have spent way much more time and debate on many minor issues that didn't affect city finances like this).  So, in a nutshell, instead of having the bad press about the revenue shortfalls and the city's debt obligations the press would have been good reporting on the revenue increases the project was experiencing.
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« Reply #105 on: July 23, 2010, 10:13:18 AM »

I received a spam email from the Star yesterday that was a big ad from some Omaha tourism board.  Coincidental timing of the favorable Omaha article appearing at roughly the same time the Omaha tourism folks place this ad order?  Bullshit.  The never ending slide of journalistic ethics marches on . . .

Suttle: Boost tourism ad money

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Suttle wants to pump $2.2 million more into the Omaha Convention and Visitors Bureau to fund a marketing campaign aimed at drawing tourists from such cities as Denver and St. Louis.

The campaign would build on an ad campaign in Kansas City and Des Moines that the visitors bureau considers a huge success.

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Omaha is getting its biggest response from Kansas City. The visitors bureau says a survey indicated that 204,000 people from the area had visited Omaha in the previous 12 months, which is up 56 percent from two years ago.

The bureau says 110,000 people visited from Des Moines, although it doesn't have past numbers for comparison.

Considering just the Kansas City tourists, the bureau estimates the community saw $61 million in tourism spending. That estimate assumes each visitor spent $300 while in Omaha.
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« Reply #106 on: July 23, 2010, 11:13:38 AM »


200,000 people from KC alone?  That would mean that 10% of the entire population of KC visited Omaha within the last 12 months.  Wolf tickets.
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« Reply #107 on: July 26, 2010, 12:51:40 AM »

200,000 people from KC alone?  That would mean that 10% of the entire population of KC visited Omaha within the last 12 months.  Wolf tickets.

There are probably 200,000 Nebraska natives in the KC region.
What the fuvk is someone from Stl or Denver gonna do in Omaha? KC is only a few hours away, but traveling 7 hours for a decent zoo & much worse museums, restaurants, shopping than you have at home. Kudos to the mayor for his vision, but the money would be better spent places like Sioux Falls, SD & Topeka.
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