OFFICIAL - Centropolis on Grand (5th & Grand)

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OFFICIAL - Centropolis on Grand (5th & Grand)

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$8mm 56-unit apartment building to be built at Fifth & Grand on the streetcar line. The infill developments are really picking up steam lately. Only thing I would like to see at that corner is a little ground-floor retail. But I suppose we'll survive without it :(
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/05/46 ... tment.html
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there's already a lot of *empty* retail nearby and shops that don't open in the evenings. the river market needs to see that change first before more is needed. don't want to end up with the urban version of sprawl because there's too many spaces to locate

luckily there's a number of nearby buildings ripe for redevelopment that could hold retail when it is needed
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flyingember wrote:there's already a lot of *empty* retail nearby and shops that don't open in the evenings. the river market needs to see that change first before more is needed. don't want to end up with the urban version of sprawl because there's too many spaces to locate

luckily there's a number of nearby buildings ripe for redevelopment that could hold retail when it is needed
Basically my feelings on the matter.
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Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

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More apartments coming to 5th and Grand.

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/05/46 ... tment.html
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Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

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loftguy wrote:More apartments coming to 5th and Grand.

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/05/46 ... tment.html
Haha holy shit, when I saw your link I thought maybe a second project had popped up for this corner. My mind about blew!

This is just another awesome project. As much of a bummer this Jimmy John's project is becoming, we really shouldn't be too concerned. Nothing can stop this momentum! (though I don't like the precedent this JJ project will set)

I really love dense new construction on vacant lots. It's the shit!
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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The continuous flow of announcements is great but is any downtown housing project expected to open in 1st half of 2014?
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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Lucas Place has got to be getting close...right? It seems like work has been going on for years over there.
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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Is this the lot next to conover lofts? Great spot for infill.
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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No, it's next to 523 Grand Lofts.

This is the site.

http://tinyurl.com/qcwm9d2
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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For those interested, here is a pic of the historic Centropolis Hotel, originally located at that corner.

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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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FangKC wrote:No, it's next to 523 Grand Lofts.

This is the site.

http://tinyurl.com/qcwm9d2
Will Sue be even more mad now, since she can not only expect a streetcar line running in front of her business, but whole bunch more hipsters living near her business as well
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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The Centropolis Hotel was located on the NW corner of 5th and Grand (not the site of the new apartments) on what is now the parking lot for City Market. It was the City's best hotel until the Savoy was built, and was the first hotel in Kansas City to have electricity.

http://tinyurl.com/mdjvpoe
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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FangKC wrote:The Centropolis Hotel was located on the NW corner of 5th and Grand (not the site of the new apartments) on what is now the parking lot for City Market. It was the City's best hotel until the Savoy was built, and was the first hotel in Kansas City to have electricity.

http://tinyurl.com/mdjvpoe
Thanks Fang, should've done my research!
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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I'm trying to remember what used to be on that corner where the apartments are going. Need to look at tax assessment photo collection.
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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Wasn't that where the produce wholesaler was? Torn down around '07 or '08 for a project canceled when great recession hit?
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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There was an old poultry warehouse next to 523 Grand. Further north were several 2-story retail buildings that at one time included a Chinese laundry. They were torn down before the '40 Tax Assessment photos were taken.
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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moderne wrote:Wasn't that where the produce wholesaler was? Torn down around '07 or '08 for a project canceled when great recession hit?
You're thinking of the block south of 523 Grand.
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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Fang, wasn't that triangular site part of an old brewery complex? Muehlebach Brewery (laterSchlitz)???
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Re: Centropolis on Grand (5th and Grand Apt project)

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zonk wrote:Fang, wasn't that triangular site part of an old brewery complex? Muehlebach Brewery (laterSchlitz)???
Yes.
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