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councilman johnson has indicated there will be a major streetcar plan at some point, similar to the city's major street plan.
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DaveKCMO wrote:
councilman johnson has indicated there will be a major streetcar plan at some point, similar to the city's major street plan.


That's really good news. My very subjective hope is that if and when the starter line passes it will be a start of a comprehensive rail/streetcar plan for the entire urban area(where it makes economic sense of course).
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So how is this terminating on the south end? I have see it end at Pershing as if it will be expanded down Main as well as head east on Pershing as if it would catch grand through CC.


East on Pershing was the original concept. The updated concept has it ending on Main under The Link. Keeps options open for future extension (plus is cheaper for this leg).


Sounds like a good idea. It would be nice if it split into two lines there (one grand/main and the other head over the broadway. That way one could go to UMKC via the plaza and the other could go to the plaza via Westport. It would double the frequency of the line in the downtown area too.

Just a thought.


That would be nice, but if the streetcar get extended to UMKC, financially I think it would make more sense to just move the Orangeline MAX to Broadway, or SW Trafficway if the city could ever be persuaded to provide dedicated lanes on either side.
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Post Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar
I'm sorry to ask a question Dave that I'm sure has been answered a dozen times in this thread, but if everything goes smoothly, what's the best estimate on when I will be able to ride this thing?
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april 30, 2015.
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Thanks!
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DaveKCMO wrote:
april 30, 2015.


I would say only in your dreams. If I were a betting man I would bet the city does not receive the grant. (Of course I sometimes lose those types of bets so don't try and take up the bet so that is why I said "If I were".
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DaveKCMO wrote:
april 30, 2015.


I would say only in your dreams. If I were a betting man I would bet the city does not receive the grant. (Of course I sometimes lose those types of bets so don't try and take up the bet so that is why I said "If I were".


If I were a betting man I would take your bet. I have a very strong feeling that you are wrong.

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Anyone want to put a friendly $5 on it? :P
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Anyone want to put a friendly $5 on it? :P


I met a guy in Omaha once that wanted to put a friendly five on me and it wasn't what I was expecting.

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Post Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar
No sense speculating. We should know in a week. It will kind of crush me if we don't get it though, because I can totally see this thing going up in smoke/down in flames if KC doesn't get a little confidence boost from the Feds.
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shinatoo wrote:
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Anyone want to put a friendly $5 on it? :P


I met a guy in Omaha once that wanted to put a friendly five on me and it wasn't what I was expecting.

:shock:


Only five? You were in the wrong part of Omaha...
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My feeling is based on two items.
1) The amount of money available vs the total amount of the requests
2) Kansas City right now doesn't have the political strength to pull it through

I have been proven wrong in the past and will be proven wrong at times in the future but on this one ...
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I think where you're wrong is #2. I can't say with any degree of certainty that we'll get the cash, but I think that, politically speaking, KC is in a stronger position now than it has been in the past.
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Post Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar
Huh????????????

Cleaver is lukewarm (if even that) about it. Blunt couldn't care less. McCaskill doesn't have that much influence.
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Huh????????????

Cleaver is lukewarm (if even that) about it. Blunt couldn't care less. McCaskill doesn't have that much influence.


I believe Mean is speaking of KC politicians and not our elected officials in DC. The mayor and company has met with the US DOT and Lahood on this issue. Not saying that having the backing of Cleaver and McCaskill wouldn't benefit KC during the process.
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Post Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar
the winning applicants are approved by the administration from a final list determined by the USDOT.
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Post Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar
Not disputing that but it still is a political process and open to a lobby or two or three or more.
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Post Re: KCMO Downtown Streetcar
Shitbags:

http://www.kmbc.com/news/kansas-city/Landlord-warns-of-rent-hikes-after-streetcar-vote/-/11664182/14244406/-/f1fplrz/-/index.html

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a letter from his landlord at the Old Town Lofts that urged him to vote no on the measure. The letter raised the prospect of a rent increase to compensate for the higher property taxes.

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/kansas-city/La ... z1wPGuub3Z


Flood these people's phones.
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From what I heard last night, only 8 Old Town Properties residents voted in the election.
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