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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25775 Location: Quality Hill
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 P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
Discuss:
Overall site plan:
Ground level
Upper level
Residential

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Last edited by KCPowercat on Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:02 am, edited 1 time in total.
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trailerkid
City Center Square
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 10:49 pm Posts: 11221 Location: San Francisco, California
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
I think this should be titled "14th and Walnut"
ESPN Zone is obviously what they have in mind for "Sports and Media." I also thought ESPN would be awesome to have across the street from the new arena-- a perfect fit. If they land ESPN Zone...we won't have much to worry about with P&L.
I'm also thinking a large format Apple store for the "Technology Retail" just south of the ESPN Zone.
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25775 Location: Quality Hill
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
Yeah almost has to be ESPNzone...makes me wonder is this site plan just laid out as what they'd like to see with retailers in mind to go after or was this plan laid out after getting specific retailers signed/close to signing then designing? Big difference.
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trailerkid
City Center Square
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 10:49 pm Posts: 11221 Location: San Francisco, California
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
Don't mean to be a pessimist, but I think it is what they want rather than what they have. ESPN is the big kahuna of tenants. If they get 'em everything else will fall into place.
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:00 am |
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kcteen
Western Auto Lofts
Joined: Thu May 01, 2003 2:36 am Posts: 514
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
Technology store is really, really good.
Think about it, there is no large technology store in the urban core. You have to drive forever to get to surburbia to get a circuit city, best buy, etc. The only closest thing, brandsmart on gregory, closed. Man, a good downtown computer store would be excelent. I kindof doubt Apple would do it, they are moving into a Plaza location.
Any good electronics/computer store would be great for the area
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25775 Location: Quality Hill
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
tk...I kind of agree but these are pretty specific sizes and genes of stores so I was just wondering how everybody else's feel on that was.
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trailerkid
City Center Square
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 10:49 pm Posts: 11221 Location: San Francisco, California
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
The Apple store on the Plaza is under 3,000 square feet which is pretty tiny. I wouldn't be surprised if Cordish tried to get Apple because of the sexiness of the brand. The stores are also a true destination and retailtainment. Because the Plaza store is so small I could see Apple doing a larger, flagship store downtown. Remember...this is also a tourist district.
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:10 am |
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kcteen
Western Auto Lofts
Joined: Thu May 01, 2003 2:36 am Posts: 514
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
that would be awesome. I hope it can work.
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:11 am |
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25775 Location: Quality Hill
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
Signature restaurant????? Emerils? Maybe the BBQ joint goes here????
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dangerboy
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Joined: Wed Feb 19, 2003 2:28 pm Posts: 9028 Location: West 39th St. - KCMO
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
"Technology Retail" could be the spot for the Sprint PCS store. I hightly doubt Apple would go for a second KC store any time soon. Most of their current focus is on filling in market gaps with smaller stores.
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kcteen
Western Auto Lofts
Joined: Thu May 01, 2003 2:36 am Posts: 514
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
good call dangerboy, however i thought PCS would be actually inside the arena. Right across the street is pretty mucht he same thing though, that could be sprint
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25775 Location: Quality Hill
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
Yup, I bet you guys are right with Sprint...they want a big time presence in this and that huge store would be it.
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trailerkid
City Center Square
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 10:49 pm Posts: 11221 Location: San Francisco, California
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
That's something I never thought of. But the world's biggest Sprint Store? Let me get in line... 
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:19 am |
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25775 Location: Quality Hill
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
OK I'm going to go through all these and select my dream team of retailers given the guidelines of the site plan and then my best guess.
Signature restaurant = Emeril's
sports and media = ESPNzone (please NOT Fox sports cafe)
tech retail = Sprint PCS makes perfect sense
Theme of this block = feed the arena
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:22 pm |
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KC0KEK
Oak Tower
Joined: Fri Nov 15, 2002 12:23 am Posts: 4852 Location: Neither here nor there
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
Wasn't there a Silo on Main, near Westport Road? That chain went under years ago, but I think the sign is still up.
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:31 pm |
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KC0KEK
Oak Tower
Joined: Fri Nov 15, 2002 12:23 am Posts: 4852 Location: Neither here nor there
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Yes. It's not for everyone's taste or budget, but it would be a draw. I've eaten at the one in NO, and it's good. Emeril's is in a couple other cities now, but I haven't heard about whether they have ambitions to expand further. Worth a shot, though.
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QueSi2Opie
Bryant Building
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:05 pm Posts: 3864 Location: Hangin' with the cons, crazies, and crackheads on 11th & Grand.
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
Signature restaurant = B.B. King's Blues Club & Grill
Sports & media = ESPNzone
Tech retail = Sprint PCS
Jus' hope the signature restaurant isn't a Tony Roma's! 
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| Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:48 pm |
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LyRiCaL GanGsTa
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SONY/PLAYSTATION Store & bar.... dig this! http://www.sftravel.com/metreon.html
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staubio
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Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:17 pm Posts: 6948 Location: River Market
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 Re: P&L District: 14th & Walnut Site Proposal
In a release to Sprint associates today, Forsee wrote that the planned retail store is 10,000 square feet. That doesn't match the "technology" store space on this site plan.
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tat2kc
Bryant Building
Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2003 12:32 am Posts: 4196 Location: freighthouse district
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i'm betting these continue to be preliminary design ideas. they've got some time left to tweak the square footage, etc.
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