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kboish
Colonnade
Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:25 am Posts: 978 Location: Columbus Park
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 The Kill Devil Club
SO, I wasn't sure where to put this....figured scene is most appropriate, but this is going in P&L where the Peachtree used to be. From the Star: this seems pretty big for P&L to get someone with a lot of KC creditability to help open a space. Edit: heres the link http://www.kansascity.com/2012/06/25/3676029/cityscape-rums-the-word-at-new.html
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| Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:07 pm |
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chingon
Penntower
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:47 am Posts: 2421
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 Re: The Kill Devil Club
This is the first thing that has the potential to make me a P/L regular. (I've been 3 times, so far, if you include the ancillary retail and movie theatre.)
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| Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:44 pm |
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25771 Location: Quality Hill
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Freaking awesome. Tough draw on that 2nd level so something unique and a concept by a great guy in Ryan could be the recipe this space needs.
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| Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:31 pm |
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bobbyhawks
Broadway Square
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:19 pm Posts: 2789
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 Re: The Kill Devil Club
Great news. I'd be interested to hear if Cordish reached out to Ryan and Co., or if it was the other way around. Either way, it is nice to see Cordish filling some of the empty slots, regardless of if it was their doing or not. Perhaps this will lead to other efforts.
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| Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:22 pm |
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25771 Location: Quality Hill
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Article quote from Ryan said they reached out to him a few times...
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| Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:28 pm |
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bobbyhawks
Broadway Square
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:19 pm Posts: 2789
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Guess it helps if you read the article.
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| Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:56 pm |
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FangKC
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:02 am Posts: 9514 Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound
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 Re: The Kill Devil Club
Won't this club sort of be in direct competition with the Chesterfield Club in the Mainstreet Theater--jazz club?
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| Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:09 pm |
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earthling
Colonnade
Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:27 pm Posts: 993
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 Re: The Kill Devil Club
^Or could become a new jazz corner to hop around. The President Hotel needs to figure out the right kind of vibe for the Drum Room and then there will be a little jazz club stretch that would compliment each other.
Ryan M, with Jardine's now gone you should focus on taking over that kind of booking. But consider becoming a 'listening room' with no or few eats.
Last edited by earthling on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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| Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:15 pm |
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FangKC
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:02 am Posts: 9514 Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound
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| Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:16 pm |
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chingon
Penntower
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:47 am Posts: 2421
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Fuck that. The last thing this scene needs is another "Shush Jazz" joint. Book some loud, horn-laden shit. Clinking glasses and brassy laughter is the best back-up man in all of jazz.
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| Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:05 pm |
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chrizow
Global Moderator
Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2003 2:43 pm Posts: 16518
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 Re: The Kill Devil Club
 exactly. we need to bring back wild, raucous jazz, not "dinner music" jazz. KC is known for big band and bop, not post-Sade crooning.
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| Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:07 pm |
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earthling
Colonnade
Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:27 pm Posts: 993
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Wasn't talking dinner music or Blue Room. Was thinking more like Tonic in NYC, which booked a wide range of jazz and experimental music that would often be raucous if not insane. It's not the old school listening room at all. Just a bar, music and no eats. A few small eats could work.
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| Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:13 pm |
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chingon
Penntower
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:47 am Posts: 2421
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My bad. I guess that what I think of when I think of a listening room, which I avoid as a rule.
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| Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:23 pm |
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kboish
Colonnade
Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:25 am Posts: 978 Location: Columbus Park
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| Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:16 pm |
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bobbyhawks
Broadway Square
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:19 pm Posts: 2789
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 Re: The Kill Devil Club
I have long wanted a place in KC where you can go into a club environment and see a big band in full swing with small cocktail tables (ala Goodfellas), a dance space that does not expect too much but can be made to accomodate more, and a full band in suits or tuxes with the deluxe band podiums. I feel like if you are going to celebrate our jazz history, there should be at least one night a month or week where you can see this somewhere. I'm probably just not in the know, but it seems the big band offerings are often in larger auditoriums or kind of drab. I'd like to go to an upbeat, class joint, where you can feel like you are a part of history, yet not be totally surrounded by old folks who think it is too loud. Perhaps that has been too small of a segment, but I think many younger people have just never understood how or had great opportunities to embrace our jazz history other than through museums and districts with fake storefronts. I love a more casual jazz experience, but I think the casual experience is what turns many away from the genre.
It sounds like this place will be perfectly suited to put a more up-tempo vibe out. In my past experiences in the Blue Room or at Jardine's, the focus has been on providing a casual experience for hardcore jazz enthusiasts. As others mentioned, I want to go to a place where I feel like I'm setting the town on fire (or at least the band is setting the room on fire) and where people aren't just staring silently, which is why I think the Mutual Musician's Foundation has prospered. They do some more casual and low-key stuff, but the feeling of being somewhere unique and feeling energized certainly comes across. I think there are other aspects of the P&L that get certain people into this mentality already, so perhaps this will add to and diversify the dynamic already in the urban core. This is the type of place where you go when you are out for the evening, which I am most excited about. What to do downtown tonight? Well you can always catch a show at the Kill Devil Club (fantastic name by the way).
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| Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:53 pm |
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KC-wildcat
Hotel President
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:54 pm Posts: 3437 Location: UMKC Law
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do the windows of the PeachTree open to the street? Would be pretty cool way to advertise that music is upstairs.
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| Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:46 pm |
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FangKC
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:02 am Posts: 9514 Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound
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Yes, the best advertisement for Kansas City would be for hotel guests at conventions to walk down 14th Street and hear loud jazz music blaring from the clubs, and smell good BBQ in the air. I kind of wish the Kill Devil Club was at street-level though so people could look through doors or windows and see the artists playing.
That is how I discovered Jeff Buckley when I live in the East Village of New York City. I was walking past Cafe Sine' one night and the heard him singing through a window.
It would also be great if The New Century Follies burlesque troope could be scheduled at The Folly or Lyric Theater during big conventions.
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| Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:39 pm |
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25771 Location: Quality Hill
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I don't believe they used to but I agree, that would be great.
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| Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:54 am |
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FangKC
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:02 am Posts: 9514 Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound
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It would be great if a couple of raunchier clubs would open along Broadway in the old Tanner's space, Seiden's Fur, or that other building north of Majestic Steakhouse. Maybe one of them could be a permanent burlesque and vaudeville club. The rents in these buildings would be much cheaper probably than at P&L, and they would add some "color" to the downtown entertainment mix. Sometimes I think downtown is too sterile.
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| Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:14 am |
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bobbyhawks
Broadway Square
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:19 pm Posts: 2789
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You discovered Jeff Buckley?& Seriously, though, that is an amazing story, and you have a good ear. I bet his live show was otherworldly with a voice and guitar chops like that.
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| Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:51 pm |
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