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KCMax
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Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 22175 Location: The basement of a Ross Dress for Less
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:25 pm |
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25769 Location: Quality Hill
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
Hotel was planned years ago for the corner by howl at the moon. Haven't heard of renewed construction but guess it would be time for some new blood.
Way I remember it would be like the old XO. There was another hotel at another cordish development I believe Louisville.
What they should go for is a big dance club that's gay friendly. KC hasn't really had one since DB closed.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:40 pm |
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chrizow
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Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2003 2:43 pm Posts: 16515
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
that is a really good idea.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:42 pm |
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FangKC
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:02 am Posts: 9508 Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
There has been a rumor that Missie B's might go into the space where America's Pub was in Westport.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:54 pm |
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25769 Location: Quality Hill
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:57 pm |
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kboish
Colonnade
Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:25 am Posts: 977 Location: Columbus Park
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
What space is will this go in? across from old raglan road?
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:16 pm |
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25769 Location: Quality Hill
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
Actually I believe next to Johnny's and howl at the moon on the 2nd floor in the corner.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:18 pm |
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kboish
Colonnade
Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:25 am Posts: 977 Location: Columbus Park
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
it amazes me how many empty places there still are in p&l.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:26 pm |
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KCMax
Global Moderator
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 22175 Location: The basement of a Ross Dress for Less
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
Especially in the light of the Plaza and Westport adding new tenants all the time. Remember all the fears P&L would "kill" those two districts?
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:48 pm |
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25769 Location: Quality Hill
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
It does? Seems to be a product of the economy and an unknown location....and ahole landlord by some accounts.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:49 pm |
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FangKC
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:02 am Posts: 9508 Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound
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Yes, I'm been thinking for awhile not that Cordish probably shouldn't be running this show anymore.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:32 pm |
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kboish
Colonnade
Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:25 am Posts: 977 Location: Columbus Park
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
considering the plaza is killing it right now with retail/restaurants and westport seems to be turning over a new leaf, I don't think the "its the economy" excuse works. If cordish wanted to fill that place out they could. how can they figure that asking for ungodly rents and empty storefronts is better than lowering rents for a time and filling out the district?
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:06 pm |
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mean
Administrator
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 3:00 pm Posts: 9457 Location: Historic Northeast
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
They must think that they can make more money by waiting. That's all I can figure.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:36 pm |
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25769 Location: Quality Hill
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
Plaza is a nationally known commodity and westport is a locally known as a long time neighborhood. I also think variety of landlords helps in westport. Power and light is not a known commodity at this point. So yes the economy is improving....but those established centers will get tenants quicker coming out of an economic downturn. I'm not a cordish apologist but there is obviously many factors at work here.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:17 pm |
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mean
Administrator
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 3:00 pm Posts: 9457 Location: Historic Northeast
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
How many more years will P&L have to be there before it is a "known commodity"?
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:22 pm |
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25769 Location: Quality Hill
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
Obviously that's up to each business making the decision but bouncing it up against the original outdoor mall that draws in national exclusive tenants and one of the more established entertainment neighborhoods in the city??? Maybe give it more than 5 years?
Obviously its had its struggles getting going.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:38 pm |
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bobbyhawks
Broadway Square
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:19 pm Posts: 2789
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 Re: P&L to build club called "Hotel"?
They've been working on that corner for a few weeks now. At first I thought they were just creating a new entrance to the upstairs for the parking garage folks, so I didn't mention it here. Now that I think about it, there is a pretty significant second floor corner space that is a wasteland on the top level of P&L (the Northeast corner above Johnny's). I'm sure this place will do well during large events, but it will probably have the same limited big event appeal as the Rock Bar or Tengo Sed or the cowboy bar. Really, I'm just glad they are filling a space so that they can refocus on areas outside of the Live block.
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| Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:11 am |
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KCPowercat
Power & Light
Joined: Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:49 pm Posts: 25769 Location: Quality Hill
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Those upper level places are very popular outside of big events. Those are what have lines out the door on weekends from my experience.
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| Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:59 am |
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smh
Valencia Place
Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:40 am Posts: 1620 Location: River Market
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Agreed. Seems like the times I'm at P&L there are lines outside Rock Bar, Shark Bar, Howl at the Moon, and PBR Bar.
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| Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:50 am |
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Pork Chop
Western Auto Lofts
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:41 am Posts: 651
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