Status and future of the River Market area??

Issues concerning Downtown as described by the Downtown Council. River to 31st Street, I-35 to Bruce R. Watkins.
heatherkay
Alameda Tower
Alameda Tower
Posts: 1424
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:39 am
Location: River Market and Rosedale

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by heatherkay »

It's going to be Icon's new office/fabrication space.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/p ... -icon.html

That article seems to indicate some of it will be retail space.
User avatar
smh
Supporter
Posts: 4313
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:40 pm
Location: Central Loop

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by smh »

Quay Coffee opens this Friday, June 22. Note the evening hours. Place looks good (though you can't tell from these photos with the butcher block in place.)

Image

Image
User avatar
KCMax
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 24051
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:31 pm
Location: The basement of a Ross Dress for Less
Contact:

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by KCMax »

Grand opening today. Anyone swing by yet?
ColumbusParkian
Western Auto Lofts
Western Auto Lofts
Posts: 571
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:41 pm

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by ColumbusParkian »

I've been in, and was quite impressed.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/quay-coffee-kan ... x_ZbVjfIOg
tella100
Strip mall
Strip mall
Posts: 118
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:28 am

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by tella100 »

I dont drink coffee, but hopefully they do well. Such a great street and sounds like they did a fantastic job with the space. Wonder if the market can support two, or three good coffee shops though?
ColumbusParkian
Western Auto Lofts
Western Auto Lofts
Posts: 571
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:41 pm

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by ColumbusParkian »

Regarding the building at 5th and Grand: I met a guy at the dog park who said he was in talks w/ the owners about converting a part of it into a doggie day care and groomer. If done correctly, this business would just print money in the River Market.
User avatar
FangKC
City Hall
City Hall
Posts: 18238
Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:02 pm
Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by FangKC »

Sunflower Development Group is doing the building on the SW corner of 5th and Grand.

They have done a lot of quality renovations.
User avatar
rxlexi
Penntower
Penntower
Posts: 2296
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2003 10:30 pm
Location: Briarcliff

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by rxlexi »

Just an update on Quay Coffee - it rocks! Much better fit than KCity and exactly what Delware Street needed IMO.

Delicious Oddly Correct espressos and pour over coffees, a small selection of sodas and pastries, and a great, modern aesthetic. Very friendly owner as well.

Pefect new addition to the City Market, hope to see more like it...
User avatar
FangKC
City Hall
City Hall
Posts: 18238
Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:02 pm
Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by FangKC »

The Oldham Hotel building on the SE corner of 5th and Walnut is for sale for $2 million. The address is 105 E. 5th Street.

Loftguy, how would this building be for conversion into apartments?

http://www2.locationone.com/(S(0mvoab45 ... gId=786462

Image
loftguy
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3850
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:12 pm

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by loftguy »

FangKC wrote:The Oldham Hotel building on the SE corner of 5th and Walnut is for sale for $2 million. The address is 105 E. 5th Street.

Loftguy, how would this building be for conversion into apartments?

http://www2.locationone.com/(S(0mvoab45 ... gId=786462

Image
A poor one. Too much money invested in stilll attractive office finishes to make sense of tearing it out, especially when the upper levels have historically stayed full, even though the building has no parking.
User avatar
FangKC
City Hall
City Hall
Posts: 18238
Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:02 pm
Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by FangKC »

Loftguy, do you think the River Market would be well-served to have a community parking garage built near that intersection that could be shared by a lot of the buildings in the area, and that would free up some surface lots for development?

Maybe between Hickok's and The Opera House building on the west side of Walnut and have it extend over to the Main side? Or would it be better to build one west of Minsky's on that big surface lot at W. 5th and Main?

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Missouri ... 64106&z=18
User avatar
smh
Supporter
Posts: 4313
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:40 pm
Location: Central Loop

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by smh »

My dream has always been a large garage on the City Market lot next to Minsky's. Perhaps even with shops on the bottom and everything.
loftguy
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3850
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:12 pm

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by loftguy »

There were some planning efforts made a decade ago, with the intention of seeing developed exactly what you describe, smh, with perhaps garage going underground and housing (condos, in that era) on top.

Bet they (the city) would listen closely if some credible entity came in with equity strong enough to execute this.

I too, think this would be a great project.
User avatar
FangKC
City Hall
City Hall
Posts: 18238
Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:02 pm
Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by FangKC »

The City should approach the Morgan Group, who built Market Station, and see if they would be interested in developing that site.
flyingember
Mark Twain Tower
Mark Twain Tower
Posts: 9862
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:54 am

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by flyingember »

loftguy wrote:There were some planning efforts made a decade ago, with the intention of seeing developed exactly what you describe, smh, with perhaps garage going underground and housing (condos, in that era) on top.

Bet they (the city) would listen closely if some credible entity came in with equity strong enough to execute this.

I too, think this would be a great project.
what would push for redeveloment is if the city:

add per spot fees on paid surface lots throughout all of KC. if someone wants to give away parking let them. it's about taking away the economic incentive to tear down and pave and benefit.

as well, implement an ordinance that disallows for any company that allows the public to park in their lot or garage but only for their business. a lot can remain private but if they let anyone from the public to park there they must open it up for 24x7 parking. this would encourage using on-street parking for businesses and from having endless lots controlled by a company empty when they're closed

then implement parking maximums on new construction, even at existing projects. let the market handle existing lots but any new retail development would be limited to smaller lots. we'd see less big projects putting in huge amounts of parking.

finally, ban the use of city tax financing of any parking spot that is not in a parking garage. garages encourage tight development. look at the mall of america as a great use of garages instead of lots.
User avatar
Volker Dad
Pad site
Pad site
Posts: 82
Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:00 pm
Location: Central Hyde

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by Volker Dad »

flyingember wrote:
loftguy wrote:There were some planning efforts made a decade ago, with the intention of seeing developed exactly what you describe, smh, with perhaps garage going underground and housing (condos, in that era) on top.

Bet they (the city) would listen closely if some credible entity came in with equity strong enough to execute this.

I too, think this would be a great project.
what would push for redeveloment is if the city:

add per spot fees on paid surface lots throughout all of KC. if someone wants to give away parking let them. it's about taking away the economic incentive to tear down and pave and benefit.

as well, implement an ordinance that disallows for any company that allows the public to park in their lot or garage but only for their business. a lot can remain private but if they let anyone from the public to park there they must open it up for 24x7 parking. this would encourage using on-street parking for businesses and from having endless lots controlled by a company empty when they're closed

then implement parking maximums on new construction, even at existing projects. let the market handle existing lots but any new retail development would be limited to smaller lots. we'd see less big projects putting in huge amounts of parking.

finally, ban the use of city tax financing of any parking spot that is not in a parking garage. garages encourage tight development. look at the mall of america as a great use of garages instead of lots.

I love the idea of parking maximums.
pash
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3800
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:47 am

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by pash »

.
Last edited by pash on Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
KCtonic
New York Life
New York Life
Posts: 408
Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:24 am
Location: River Market

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by KCtonic »

Pre register now River Market people! Let's do this!!!

https://fiber.google.com/


The $10 pre-registration fee is refundable if it doesn't happen in our neighborhood. It's a fantastic deal and a great way to free yourself from Time Warner
loftguy
Bryant Building
Bryant Building
Posts: 3850
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:12 pm

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by loftguy »

KCtonic wrote:Pre register now River Market people! Let's do this!!!

https://fiber.google.com/


The $10 pre-registration fee is refundable if it doesn't happen in our neighborhood. It's a fantastic deal and a great way to free yourself from Time Warner

FYI, many of the people involved in this launch live in RM. They can't speed up deployment, it must come from pre-registration. Get it going guys.
thegeester68
Parking Garage
Parking Garage
Posts: 45
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:23 am

Re: Status and future of the River Market area??

Post by thegeester68 »

Damn, I live in Grandview which thus far will not be included in the initial KC rollout. :(
Post Reply