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heatherkay
Alameda Tower
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:39 pm Posts: 1193 Location: River Market and Rosedale
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 Proposed apartments at 13th and Baltimore
Since we retitled the thread this was included in as "proposed apts at 13th and Walnut," I thought I would start a separate topic to track this development as well. Cordish planning to renovate the long-vacant Midland office building on the NE corner of 13th and Baltimore to create 68 apartments. Construction/renovation planned to be complete by 2013. Reno costs estimated at $1.30 per square foot. Its renovation cost was pegged at $12.5 million. Midland units would range from an average of $975 per month for a one-bedroom to $1,365 for a two-bedroom. The plan for the Midland calls for 53 one-bedroom and 15 two-bedroom units. http://www.kansascity.com/2012/06/20/3668134/cordish-plans-70-million-downtown.htmlLet's start peeking in the windows!
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| Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:18 pm |
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beautyfromashes
Broadway Square
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:04 pm Posts: 2572
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KC-wildcat
Hotel President
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:54 pm Posts: 3436 Location: UMKC Law
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| Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:34 pm |
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kboish
Colonnade
Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:25 am Posts: 977 Location: Columbus Park
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I'm so glad they are moving forward with both projects at once.
I'm willing to bet that whoever said in one of the other threads that this will lead off another large apt/residential projects or two will end up being correct.
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| Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:52 pm |
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grovester
Valencia Place
Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:30 am Posts: 1841 Location: KC Metro
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The timing, after the tiger grant let down, is great. This buttresses the argument that downtown is growing and needs transportation
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| Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:12 pm |
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FangKC
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:02 am Posts: 9507 Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound
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I wonder if Cordish had a contractual obligation to get started on the residential part of P&L since city bond money was set aside in the project budget for apartments? Especially the renovation of the Midland Tower.
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| Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:58 pm |
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moderne
Hotel President
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:50 pm Posts: 3362 Location: downtown
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Is this the first residential built in the loop since the early seventies(River Hills Mark II--now manhattan and whatever is the name for its twin)? This will fill in a gap in the skyline from the east and will be prominent in the view approaching DT from 71 Bruce Watkins.
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aknowledgeableperson
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:31 am Posts: 9924
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Just curious. How many downtown dwellers would be interest in this type of development? From MSNBC.com "New York City "micro" apartments aim to be cozy, not cramped"
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| Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:57 am |
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FangKC
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:02 am Posts: 9507 Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound
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New York City is a very different real estate environment. Apartments are difficult to find--especially large affordable ones. Everyone wants to live in Manhattan, which drives up real estate prices to astronomical levels.
Kansas City has plenty of space, and people here are used to large, inexpensive apartments.
However, the real estate market has changed a great deal in many cities. Single people make up a much larger portion of most city populations--especially single seniors. Some of the depopulation of the City south of the river is because so many single people are living in houses that used to have two or more people in them. Of course, there are other reasons like crime and blight, bad schools, etc.
In some respects, developers need to take these new trends into account, and design more living spaces for singles. Instead of building big suburban houses, small cottages on vacant lots might be called for, or small one-story row-houses.
I don't think building a new apartment building with micro-apartments would do well here. However, an older renovated building might work. The old part of the Muehlebach Hotel that is empty might be renovated combining two hotel rooms into small studio apartments with the kitchen and eating area in one room, and a combined living/sleeping space in the other. These spaces might be suitable as housing for UMKC Conservatory of Music and Dance students.
Kansas City is not dense, and real estate is not expensive enough for the micro-apartment to work in our Metro.
Oddly enough, there are a lot of small apartments sitting empty in Manhattan in old buildings. Many have not been renovated, and building owners are happy just to rent out the retail street-level space. Some simply don't want to deal with multiple tenants in the building. I used to always wonder how this could be with real estate prices so high, but it does happen.
I also have known about people who moved to LA and kept their NYC apartment because it was rent-controlled, and they want it in case they decide to go back, or visit. A lot of people in the entertainment business do it. I remember reading that even after Bruce Willis became very rich and famous, he kept his rent-controlled NYC apartment just so he'd have a place to stay when he was in the City.
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| Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:43 am |
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pash
Valencia Place
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:47 am Posts: 1501
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In NYC it's both possible and, for some people, usual to do little more than sleep in your apartment. It's really not odd, then, to live in an apartment that's little more than a bedroom.
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| Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:28 am |
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aknowledgeableperson
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:31 am Posts: 9924
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Given what has been rehabbed downtown for apts/hotels that is one building that puzzles me. Why not this one? Can they not decide if it is to be apts or hotel rooms? Cost? Looking for the "right" developer? Potential subsidies?
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| Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:45 am |
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FangKC
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:02 am Posts: 9507 Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound
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The old Muehlebach building is controlled by Larry Bridges of Executive Hills and DST via the Kansas City Downtown Hotel Group LLC. http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/stories/2008/11/17/story1.html?page=all
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PumpkinStalker
Bryant Building
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:04 am Posts: 3857 Location: Waldo
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During my All-Star volunteer gigs, I was in the Mariott for a bit and asked one of the GMs about the Muehlebach. He said th primary issue is the amount of asbestos in the rooms. They've looked at financials and it's more than they are wanting to spend in this market, apparently. He said they are in very rough shape and need total gutting down to the studs, replacing pipes, wiring, etc. I also asked if they're "historic" at all, and he said no but didn't know what era they were last renovated.
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| Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:17 pm |
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FangKC
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:02 am Posts: 9507 Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound
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They might be able to apply for the Brownfields Redevelopment Program remediation tax credits to help offset costs involved in the cleanup of asbestos. They used this program to redevelop the Mainstreet Theater. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstreet_Theaterhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownfieldshttp://www.missouritaxcredits.com/missouri-brownfield-tax-credit.html
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| Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:35 pm |
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LCDSI
Strip mall
Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:47 am Posts: 197 Location: San Francisco
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does anyone know the latest status on this project. it's been awhile since we've heard anything.
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| Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:07 am |
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FangKC
Mark Twain Tower
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:02 am Posts: 9507 Location: Old Northeast -- Indian Mound
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I would think they would get started on the Midland Office Building part first--before the new building at 13th and Walnut. Does anyone know who the architects are that are designing the apartment layouts in the Midland tower? Helix did the theater portion, but I don't see anything on their web site about doing the office tower.
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| Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:49 pm |
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